tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post5929309739245545996..comments2023-10-14T09:44:21.840-05:00Comments on People I Want to Punch in the Throat: My Kid VS. The School NurseJen Piwtpitthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09576108150881254072noreply@blogger.comBlogger127125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-15068360509669968092020-02-25T06:23:33.825-06:002020-02-25T06:23:33.825-06:00I like that one๐๐๐๐I like that one๐๐๐๐Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01207308527037472965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-23253583273939577252019-09-20T08:43:28.548-05:002019-09-20T08:43:28.548-05:00Please keep in mind that school nurses have 600-10...Please keep in mind that school nurses have 600-1000 students.. and it takes time to figure out how individual parents want calls. I have some parents who are irritated if I call for any reason and others who want a call for something as minor as hiccups. <br /><br />Sometimes there isnโt enough minutes in the day to call every parent, especially when you have sick kids in your office all day. Phones calls have to be prioritized based on severity of the clinic visits. That means wet clothes moves to the bottom of the list. Mooniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03029674602630747545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-86976097846084180392019-09-06T14:16:46.074-05:002019-09-06T14:16:46.074-05:00" Bypassing my medical judgement when I have ..." Bypassing my medical judgement when I have already deemed the student able too stay at school under the condition that if they get worse they are to return to me. Some Teachers just don't want to hear more complaining or whining because they didn't get to go home like they wanted and the Teachers cave not me. Then how does that make me look in the eye's of parents or the students? Then there is the teacher that doesn't want any liability for your child and tries to pass the buck anyway she can. All of this teaches your child " if I make enough of an issue I will get to go home". It's a double-edge sword being a school nurse."<br /><br />I too am an elementary school nurse and you are EXACTLY right! I have had students leave my office and go to the counselor's office, she would call the parent and have them picked up. I have no idea if the parent knew it was the counselor and not the nurse. This undermines my professional, medical assessment for one, but it also undermines my authority. I've had students bypass me altogether and go straight to the counselor, who NEVER sent the student to me. She would just call their parent and send them home. <br />The problem is, when teachers, or in this case, the counselor, give in to the children so they don't have to listen to continued whining/complaining, it isn't helping the situation. It's actually making it worse. The kids know that if they complain enough, they will eventually get what they want. If teachers nip it in the bud, right from the start, it would be so much better in the end. <br />I get calls from the secretary to send Johnny, mom is here to pick him up, and I never called mom to pick him up!! So obviously SOMEONE is bypassing me, and calling mom. But when little Johnny pees his pants, they don't EVER bypass me then. They ALWAYS send Johnny to me, because now, THAT requires a nursing license to deal with. Nobody else can pick up a phone for that, or grab some clothes to change Johnny. I see EVERY student who has a bathroom accident. <br />Anonymous Elementary nurse also talked about passing the buck because of teachers being afraid of liability. I don't allow that. The teachers ALWAYS try that. "Johnny got into a fight, can you just 'make sure' he's ok." Sure, I will make sure he's ok, but YOU are calling mom to explain, how Johnny got into a fight in YOUR classroom, where YOU were while it was going on, why there was no supervision, etc. The questions parents always ask me. They never ask me, "is Johnny ok, it's always, Where was the teacher when this was going on?" So I tell the teacher, "you call mom, and if she wants to talk to me, have her call me." I've yet to get a call from a parent. <br />The last issue, the adult witnessed vomiting. I've gone with that in past, but now, that's not even good enough. Nope. I want to see it myself now. I want to be called to wherever it is. With the teachers in my school, their idea of vomit and mine are vastly different. I had a teacher outside of my office yelling, "OMG, he just vomited ALL OVER the hallway!! Call the custodian!" I went into the hallway and it was LITERALLY, no exaggeration, the size of a half dollar, clear, spit. I took a paper towel, wiped it up and said, "All set! You don't need the custodian!" If a child JUST had breakfast or lunch and they "vomited" I should see their BREAKFAST or LUNCH, not some little spittle in a trash basket. I don't think the teachers (most of them) do it on purpose, they just obviously don't know what vomit is. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-50890556568193144642019-09-06T13:33:23.820-05:002019-09-06T13:33:23.820-05:00I am a school nurse and I think Krysti's idea ...I am a school nurse and I think Krysti's idea is HORRIBLE! Seriously, as a 2nd grade teacher, you think it's ok to give EVERY student THREE passes per MONTH???!!!!! Are you kidding me? I would be BEYOND upset if ANY teacher did that to me. You KNOW that those kids are going to use every one of those passes. I thought you were going to say 3 passes per YEAR which is PLENTY in addition to emergencies. After all, that is the only reason the kids should be in the nurse's office, right? At 3 passes per month on a 10 month school year, that is THIRTY visits to the nurse per year, per child!!! Not including emergencies. That is BEYOND excessive! And that is just YOUR classroom. I don't know how many students are in your school, but I have 420 students in my school that I am responsible for. I have hearing, vision, height and weight, and postural screenings, sick visits, head lice, injuries, medication visits, diabetic students, seizure students, developmental students, new student and incoming kindergarten student health records/immunizations to enter, reports to write for the district, the state and the Dept of public health, among other things. I don't have time to deal with nuisance issues that you, as the teacher, need to screen out before sending to the nurse. Sorry if it sounds cold, but I am not here to placate students, I have a job to do. If they don't want to be in class, and they aren't REALLY sick or injured, send them to the school counselor.<br />BTW, I only wish I dealt with parents like you all here. The parents I deal with get mad if little Johnny or Sally DON'T get sent to the nurse for everything! They will call, "Sally was sick yesterday and nobody sent her to the nurse." Well, she's here today! If she was so sick, why is she here? Did you take her to the doctor yesterday? What happened to her because she wasn't sent to the nurse? Did she have some adverse event because of it? 9 times out of 10, all I would have done is told you that Sally was complaining. So, Sally told you herself. What's the difference? If the kid ended up hospitalized over it, MAYBE you have something to be upset about. Otherwise, get over it. <br />The kids don't need to be in the nurse's office all the time. They need to be in class learning. Those of you who feel guilty for not believing your child, who was faking constantly, then really was sick, you have NOTHING to feel guilty about. You need to use it as a learning opportunity for your child and tell them, "See, that's what happens when you fake all the time. When you REALLY are sick, nobody believes you." Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-64172806680166101742019-05-28T11:26:38.249-05:002019-05-28T11:26:38.249-05:00I am a elementary school nurse and have been at th...I am a elementary school nurse and have been at this 4 years now. In my school, you have to have a temperature, be actively throwing up ( with an adult witness for proof), or have diarrhea to go home ( along with emergent kinda of things like broken bones,high fevers, stitches etc). I stick pretty tough on those rules and after your child come to the clinic ten times during the school year, we send home a letter stating that since your child has been seen 10 time thus far this year and maybe there is a underlying condition that needs MD evaluation. What I am up against is when I send your child back to the classroom and the Teacher calls or texts you to come pick up little Johnny. Bypassing my medical judgement when I have already deemed the student able too stay at school under the condition that if they get worse they are to return to me. Some Teachers just don't want to hear more complaining or whining because they didn't get to go home like they wanted and the Teachers cave not me. Then how does that make me look in the eye's of parents or the students? Then there is the teacher that doesn't want any liability for your child and tries to pass the buck anyway she can. All of this teaches your child " if I make enough of an issue I will get to go home". It's a double-edge sword being a school nurse. Can't always please the parents and can't always please the teachers. I do my very best to not bother Parents unless I now definitely there is a real medical issue or a concern. I do my best to not allow bad habits or actions to reward your child in going home for the day. Most of my parents appreciate that but then there are the ones that "their little Johnny does no wrong and they couldn't be acting out just to go home". So what do we do, to please everyone?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-47885293581295615982019-02-23T11:00:25.783-06:002019-02-23T11:00:25.783-06:00This blog is so nice to me. I will keep on coming ...This blog is so nice to me. I will keep on coming here again and again. Visit my link as well.. <a href="https://stethoscopehub.com/best-pediatric-stethoscope-reviews/" rel="nofollow">best pediatric stethoscope</a><br />BIG DOGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09895272263850390666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-24010031235354716612018-08-11T00:08:45.066-05:002018-08-11T00:08:45.066-05:00Good Post! Thank you so much for sharing this pret...Good Post! Thank you so much for sharing this pretty post, it was so good to read and useful to improve my knowledge as updated one, keep bloggingย <br /><a href="https://www.zuaneducation.com/ms-office-training-courses" rel="nofollow"> MS office course in chennai</a>sriramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09683538147321194792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-60276765138396450092015-11-26T08:19:45.941-06:002015-11-26T08:19:45.941-06:00Can a nurse practitioner see patients and do much ...Can a nurse practitioner see patients and do much what a family doctor can?<br /><a href="http://howtobecomeanurseanesthetist.com/" rel="nofollow">how long does it take to become a nurse anesthetist</a>Rose Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04080536952744694488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-31080043206080129082015-10-25T12:44:10.771-05:002015-10-25T12:44:10.771-05:00Also- I found this post very funny. I have several...Also- I found this post very funny. I have several big eyed cuties that can pull the heartstrings of the hardest of teachers, nurses and office staff... at my school, they get loving care from yours truly, and then sent back to class with a "feel better honey". ;) Mooniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03029674602630747545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-1467652261888085242015-10-25T12:25:13.398-05:002015-10-25T12:25:13.398-05:00I see it this one from ALL sides. I was a kid that...I see it this one from ALL sides. I was a kid that always wanted to go to the nurse (hated math, kids were mean, etc. etc. etc.), I have a frequent flier 4th grader, AND I am an elementary school nurse. <br /><br />As a mom, I don't want phone calls for every little thing. Even as a frequent flier, I rarely get calls about my son unless he has a legitimate issue (the nurse is super good and knowing when he is truly sick or just trying to get out of class). <br /><br />As a school nurse, I have kids that I see almost daily (and send back to class 99% of the time sans phone call home), and I have kids that I see less often, but are still "frequent fliers" and usually looking to go home. Here's the problem. There are parents that WANT phone calls for every single visit, be it a broken finger nail, vague stomach ache or paper cut. There are parents that will call the district and FREAK OUT if they find out little Jimmy didn't feel good and the school didn't call mom to pick them up. <br /><br />It's sometimes hard to figure out what parents want to be notified of.. I rarely send kids home, but sometimes I do call parents just to let them know I saw their child, that I sent the child back to class, but that I just wanted parent to know they were complaining of X,Y,Z and to keep an eye on it at home. <br /><br />Sometimes, I will see a child really doesn't feel well, but doesn't really fit the "go home" criteria (fever >100, excess vomiting/diarrhea, uncontrolled bleed, loss of conscienceless, etc.) and I will call the parent saying, "You child really doesn't seem 100% and while I don't think it's absolutely necessary they go home, I thought I'd give you the option to pick them up or have them tough it out". I find that 50% of the time they want to allow the kid to stay, and the other half they'll pick up the child. Mooniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03029674602630747545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-36044672570254211192014-11-19T06:09:58.007-06:002014-11-19T06:09:58.007-06:00This is a great article. 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other ...This is a great article. Iโve read in many <br />other places before that but <br />I did not get this type of effective and <br />more useful text. It is really important now to <br />vary your anchors as this seems more natural to user.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02605439480390444167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-58017857168144667352014-11-11T11:50:09.853-06:002014-11-11T11:50:09.853-06:00Mine is my son! The drama king of my household! ...Mine is my son! The drama king of my household! LOLBrandihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02398882732170157001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-82094210945110540072014-09-04T09:34:52.471-05:002014-09-04T09:34:52.471-05:00A lot of times the nurse can see that it isn't...A lot of times the nurse can see that it isn't a rash and that it is just bug bites but the teacher is freaking out that it is a rash and insisting that the student be sent home. 25% of the students I send home I send because the teacher is insisting.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15349161904783516325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-2161438806414760582014-09-04T09:08:59.588-05:002014-09-04T09:08:59.588-05:00As a school nurse I would assume the 'dimwit&#...As a school nurse I would assume the 'dimwit' had figured it out but after you see the same student 3 times for the same thing it's just a waste of your time. At that point we might as well just send them home and assume that you will notice they aren't really sick and hopefully you will dish out consequences. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15349161904783516325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-59541490972092259512014-09-04T08:55:06.240-05:002014-09-04T08:55:06.240-05:00I am a school nurse and every year I worry about m...I am a school nurse and every year I worry about my job being cut. We are a three building school district with each school located in a different town. The high school has an RN come once a week as does the middle school. I am an LPN and am at the elementary everyday. I worry my job will be cut or completely lost every year. Its upsetting to see you speak for someone else when you are so off base.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15349161904783516325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-5251979767448771292014-08-26T13:50:36.853-05:002014-08-26T13:50:36.853-05:00I have five kids and I am *so* used to calling, &q...I have five kids and I am *so* used to calling, "Is there blood?" through the door of the bathroom I am in. I couldn't keep my sanity intact if I treated every bump, tiny scrape or vague "tummyache" like a potential ER visit. JuniperSunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02200070408917287691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-52601156732176467622014-08-25T20:17:46.434-05:002014-08-25T20:17:46.434-05:00When son#2 was in second grade I went to the eleme...When son#2 was in second grade I went to the elementary school for parent teacher night and was met in the lobby by the school nurse. She recognized me (son told her alllllll about me!) and wanted to introduce herself since son was "one of her regulars". Funny, then he complained about his tummy and as an adult he suffers from reflux and carries all his stress there still!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13774961705121003763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-18691354265699424642014-08-25T17:56:05.392-05:002014-08-25T17:56:05.392-05:00I don't know about other places, but the schoo...I don't know about other places, but the school nurses in my district lost their "standing orders" a couple of years ago. They can wash a cut and put bandaid on it, take temps, and look in ears and throats. <br /><br />For anything else they have to call parents and get permission. There is a free clinic in the district that all students at a Title 1 school can go to. Parents can sign a slip at the beginning of the year for treatment there. They even give free meds. <br /><br />We do get heads up about kids who are frequent fliers and we try to find patterns. The weirdest one I found - a kid who got sick every time we had spaghetti for lunch. He was empty the digestive track out sick each time. kherberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03282935413300573346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-32261235743248579392014-08-25T12:31:42.002-05:002014-08-25T12:31:42.002-05:00I did a stint as the school nurse for about three ...I did a stint as the school nurse for about three years...trust me, being the mom of three girls myself (one of them a royal diva!), most of us totally understand....mspice3https://www.blogger.com/profile/00411576634368915459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-76419039934164728962014-05-29T08:57:45.602-05:002014-05-29T08:57:45.602-05:00
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