tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post5399745857885230317..comments2023-10-14T09:44:21.840-05:00Comments on People I Want to Punch in the Throat: To Breastfeed or Not to BreasfeedJen Piwtpitthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09576108150881254072noreply@blogger.comBlogger344125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-89797446253005508332015-08-17T11:53:20.244-05:002015-08-17T11:53:20.244-05:00I'm due November 7th and I am terrified I won&...I'm due November 7th and I am terrified I won't be able to breastfeed "properly". Thank you so much for having the balls to come out and tell the world that sometimes it just doesn't work. I appreciate your point of view and the fact that you are willing to stand up for those who can't, or won't, be so vocal about important topics. <br /><br />Also, one of your Anonymous commentors made the point that maybe "dad is feeding formula from a bottle because he is a single parent". Maybe the LLL members should feel like assholes because they're picking on a hypothetical widowed father whose wife died during childbirth, therefore she is (obviously) unable to feed their child and he is stepping up to the plate to be mom and dad. Fucking jerks. ;)Oona Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951594171079633931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-73597379787675122572014-08-12T13:02:57.189-05:002014-08-12T13:02:57.189-05:00Sing it sister. After I had my 1st a friend told m...Sing it sister. After I had my 1st a friend told me LLL was the devil so I steered clear. I wanted to breast feed, too, but couldn't. IT's well & good to get the message out that breast is best, but in the end what you said is true - everyone is doing the best they can. Lord knows it's hard enough & these groups should be supporting women instead of condemning them. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09587376475449542545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-77190765314255731692014-08-11T11:52:00.487-05:002014-08-11T11:52:00.487-05:00Thank you for what you're working toward. My ...Thank you for what you're working toward. My second LC was not with LLL and she was so kind and understanding and emphasized that it was about our family and all of us, not just boob and baby.Jenny Mauck DeBontehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16432428707111780417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-19375319262500018992014-08-09T07:15:55.301-05:002014-08-09T07:15:55.301-05:00I learned that i was very lucky to have no problem...I learned that i was very lucky to have no problems with breastfeeding. My sister had a miserable time with her oldest and was leery to try with any of the others. Even though she tried each time, it just wasn't for them. My biggest issue in the debate is having to stare at someone's boobs in a magazine and them calling it art or something. I would have never flopped them out on a table somewhere because my daughter would have been too busy looking at everyone and everything to nurse. It's something special between you and your child that doesn't need to be advertised. I don't like seeing someone with her boobs out for any reason. I also don't like going out to eat and having to deal with someone's toddler in an adult environment. Glad that you are standing up for all the women who feel like lesser people because they can't nurse due to circumstances beyond their control. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03474153317099988730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-69480687015760788732014-08-08T12:28:45.008-05:002014-08-08T12:28:45.008-05:00Thank you!! With my first child I was on my own, ...Thank you!! With my first child I was on my own, in school and working 2 jobs - the 2nd one from home after she was asleep. I wasn't in a situation where I could pump consistently during the day and even if I was the cost of a good pump was prohibitive at a time where I was barely making my rent and groceries. I did the best I could and today she's a senior in high school with a good group of friends, a job and a full ride to the college she wants to go to and we have a good and solid relationship. Sometimes circumstances don't allow for breastfeeding and being to made to feel horrible and to doubt yourself as a mother isn't exactly helpful.Katherine Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12126062556416434416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-50027379933819026402014-08-07T05:57:31.940-05:002014-08-07T05:57:31.940-05:00OMG! THANK YOU for this!!! I was hooked up to my p...OMG! THANK YOU for this!!! I was hooked up to my pump as I read this...Allysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02279946932559266267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-51291622357580848652014-08-07T00:51:07.017-05:002014-08-07T00:51:07.017-05:00I have no problem with LLL advertising that breast...I have no problem with LLL advertising that breast is best but getting someone else to pull a public service announcement that isn't even related to breastfeeding because it pictured a father feeding his baby is horrifying to me.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12831522479393464545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-3720288266095150642014-08-06T23:29:59.288-05:002014-08-06T23:29:59.288-05:00One of my nieces had no desire to breastfeed eithe...One of my nieces had no desire to breastfeed either. She had to have security come to her hospital room because the lactation 'nurse' wouldn't stop pressuring her and telling her the good moms bf! BF babies are healthier, you know the drill. No one at the nurse's station wouldn't do anything. It's something her and her husband researched and decided as the parents she was not going to breastfeed. Their daughter is 1 now; healthy, strong and happy as can be. Kudos for doing what's best for everyone involved. LED522https://www.blogger.com/profile/06815477672369112911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-38870461499229437792014-08-06T23:09:12.361-05:002014-08-06T23:09:12.361-05:00I loved my baby when I stopped breast feeding.
I...I loved my baby when I stopped breast feeding. <br /><br />I couldn't say that when I was. <br /><br />sixwholeyearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01620157354463464861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-38992851652366032152014-08-06T22:10:47.666-05:002014-08-06T22:10:47.666-05:00and breastfeeding Moms are attacked in different w...and breastfeeding Moms are attacked in different ways. My MIL actually asked me if I could stop breastfeeding because my daughter wouldn't take a bottle and I was "interfering" with her being a grandmother. was also asked to leave a mall parking lot because I was nursing in my own car. I can't even count the number of extended family dinners I missed because I wasn't welcome to nurse around others. why can't women just support other women? the world would be a much better placeAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09195494452407491621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-7529297212333727612014-08-06T19:31:26.874-05:002014-08-06T19:31:26.874-05:00I have read every comment intill Urs and u are the...I have read every comment intill Urs and u are the only person to mention baby being allergic to breast milk, my first born was also allergic to my breast milk, as well as normally formal milk, soya formula and lactose free formula, <br />So no breast defo wasn't best for my son at alljodie buckleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12445832744008426787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-4163974063320584492014-08-06T16:34:23.241-05:002014-08-06T16:34:23.241-05:00LLL needs to suck it! I'm so tired of them and...LLL needs to suck it! I'm so tired of them and their high handed ways; sticking their noses into things and decisions that don't belong to them! It's one thing to be an advocacy group and spread the word about the (OBVIOUS) benefits of breastfeeding. It's another to have a gripe fest about a totally unrelated ad campaign. My experience with LLL was in the hospital with my firstborn. They lady was overbearing and I truly think the nursing staff was afraid of her. Not the way it should be. I'm an educator and knowledge is power but at some time people should be left to make the proper and most appropriate decision for themselves and their family. The LLL representative I encountered, communicated to me (a 23yr old first time mother) that it was ok to have a beer while breastfeeding. What if I was a recovering alcoholic?!? My son had trouble latching the first 2 days and the floor nurses were so afraid they were looking over their shoulders for her as they stuffed similac samples and rubber nipples in the bottom of my baby bag. I left the hospital feeling more stressed than excited about breast feeding. Shouldn't be that way. I breast fed for 2 months with my firstborn (my supply dried up even after consistent pumping when I started working again). My youngest son breast fed for about 4 months. With him we both caught a WICKED case of thrush (he in his mouth, I on my nipple) that we tried to clear up for a month to no avail. We just kept swapping it. So in short, sometimes people (LLL) need to step back and look at context instead of just shooting off at the mouth willy nilly in the name of breast feeding! They do more harm than good in those situations because they unwittingly diminish the power of their voice (which is still needed and relevant in some places in the world). Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12352424592851445244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-79461473474978436802014-08-06T14:05:59.428-05:002014-08-06T14:05:59.428-05:00My daughter was a very healthy 9 lbs, 10 oz when s...My daughter was a very healthy 9 lbs, 10 oz when she was born. Having bodacious ta-tas, I thought breastfeeding would be a breeze. Nope! To start with, she couldn't latch (big boobs, small nipples, just my luck) so I tried to pump which didn't work. I could not coax one bit of milk out with my pump so I spent a ton of money on a top of the line pump. Then, stuff happened, things that these breastfeeding Nazi's don't take into consideration when they look at us formula feeders with disgust. First, I had SEVERE post-partum depression and had to go on medication, medication that would have been in my breast milk. It was either, not take the meds and go crazy or resign myself to formula feeding. Second, it was discovered that she had jaundice because she was getting too many red blood cells from me that her little liver couldn't process so the pediatrician said "no breastmilk until the jaundice is gone". By the time she was recovered, she was too used to the bottle nipple and wouldn't even attempt to latch. Then she developed reflux and had to go on special formula for that. So tell me, LLL, how in the world was I supposed to not formula feed my baby? Sometimes it is not only a choice but a necessity and it's a bunch of bullshit that a woman should be judged for not breastfeeding her baby by a bunch of over-zealous women who are not the ones taking care of my baby and dealing with these issues. <br /><br />Oh and by the way, being a single mother who also had to return to work when my baby was 6 weeks old, she got a tablespoon of cereal in her bottle so she would feel fuller longer and sleep. Judge me for that if you must but NOT for my inability to breastfeed. My baby is 17 years old, graduating a semester early from school and we have the best relationship I could hope for. So bite it LLL!!!IceQueenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16362530142540988938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-87632328852293679842014-08-06T12:34:37.942-05:002014-08-06T12:34:37.942-05:00Felt guilty for my little guy not latching, yes. S...Felt guilty for my little guy not latching, yes. Spent $$$ because I felt breast is best, yes. Have a healthy boy that had formula instead, yes. Wants to to hug Jen for writing this and sharing her story, yes. the robot mommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04125341205024890386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-43727916761915883872014-08-06T11:13:15.582-05:002014-08-06T11:13:15.582-05:00I agree wholeheartedly. After 3 years of infertili...I agree wholeheartedly. After 3 years of infertility treatments, a pregnancy where I spent 7.5 weeks on 100% hospital bedrest d/t premature rupture of membranes, a crash C-section, and a 33 week gestation, 3# 10 oz. preemie, my body was shot. My tiny son was a weak feeder, tube fed for the first 3 weeks of life, but I tried to pump anyway. My body had failed me so much, but by God, I wasn't going to let it fail me again. I followed the lactation consultant's advice to the letter. I drank gallons of water, ate oatmeal & yogurt, & took Reglan, brewer's yeast & so much fenugreek that my husband craved pancakes. I massaged, warm compressed, & religiously pumped for an hour every 3 hours. After a month, the most I had pumped in a 24hr period was just under 3 ounces. I was sleep-deprived, massively hormonal, & heartbroken. Worse, my incessant focus on breastfeeding was taking away from being a mom, being a wife, & being me. Sitting in the NICU in tears, my son's neonatologist hugged me & said she'd never seen a mom work so hard, but to continue was madness. As reluctant as I was to let it go, once I stopped, it was like a huge weight had been lifted off me. Almost 12 years later, I still get emotional thinking about it. gaylechoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09112750283343757642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-38145779435832077532014-08-06T10:58:00.580-05:002014-08-06T10:58:00.580-05:00I find the "Seeing your boob in our faces&quo...I find the "Seeing your boob in our faces" Hilarious. I mean most people I have ever seen breastfeed you can't see much even when not covered up. Generally you more from the person's clothing style. It can make people uncomfortable because the idea of the breast is "hyper-sexualized" in our society. I have heard some woman complain about breast feeders that are covered up because "they know what's going on under that blanket" Boobs are for food. Our entire bodies are sensual and sexual. Savvagekittyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07883899287140154478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-43616521022191062942014-08-06T10:35:14.869-05:002014-08-06T10:35:14.869-05:00Mary- No, I don't think that people who don...Mary- No, I don't think that people who don't breastfeed get angry because they know they made the wrong decision; I think they get angry because people that do not know their circumstances decide that they are a "lesser parent" because they didn't breastfeed. Sort of like what you are doing. I breastfed, I bottle fed; I pumped, I used formula. I am a good mom and no amount of others trying to make me feel bad about how long I did or did not breastfeed is going to make me feel bad about myself as a parent. You can go ahead and ignore the testimonials of moms that tried to breastfeed but for whatever reason it was not successful. You can go ahead and pretend to know about and/or understand what parents are going through when they decide to bottle feed. Bottom line, you are not in charge of their decision and I think that YOU have issue with the fact that others didn't do what YOU think they should have done. So you make comments just to make sure everyone knows that YOU think they made the wrong decision. God forbid you ever have to make some sort of decision that you feel is best for your child and then have a community come down on you for it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-10149524566166885352014-08-06T10:23:23.925-05:002014-08-06T10:23:23.925-05:00The problem is that for way too many years the for...The problem is that for way too many years the formula companies were on a slanderous campaign against breastfeeding. Most of North America is still anti-breast in one form or another. I can't believe how many times I heard stuff like "Eww you should never put your boob in a babies mouth, that's like putting a penis in there" I am serious. <br /> Your child should be the most important (aside from keeping your sanity and your health) lots of parents want the kids either because it is what they think they should do or as status but then don't want to do anything that changes or alters their lifestyles<br />. <br />Yes people who choose to not breastfeed shouldn't be shunned or mistreated but putting the notion that breastfeeding should be the first option and not glorifying bottle feeding as the norm is important to help change these attitudes.Savvagekittyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07883899287140154478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-12542571030264349492014-08-06T10:10:14.051-05:002014-08-06T10:10:14.051-05:00Breast IS best. My children are teenagers, and I ...Breast IS best. My children are teenagers, and I still pack breast milk in their lunch boxes. I scoff at the mothers who don't. I'm like, "Do you moms even love your kids?" Doesn't seem like it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-7182466453040442372014-08-06T09:24:33.171-05:002014-08-06T09:24:33.171-05:00Bless you for your strength and honesty. If I'...Bless you for your strength and honesty. If I'm honest, I have such guilt over not breast feeding my kids as long as I'd hoped, and giving them formula, that I can't work up my usual outrage at being coerced by people like LLL. I read your story and think, "you go, girl," and "oh, how dare those judgmental $&#*s make any mother feel less than... Mothering isn't hard enough without creating mommy factions to call one another names." But when it comes to my own life, I just feel ashamed. And I hate that they have that power over me, and that I need someone else to stand up for me. But I thank you for doing the standing up...Nelly Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12796612599303703756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-88765518134764179462012-04-24T03:54:27.515-05:002012-04-24T03:54:27.515-05:00Really? So what about a mother who pumps then need...Really? So what about a mother who pumps then needs her nipples stitched back together? Does she have to continue to pump and breast feed with stitches in her nipples? What about when that same mother gets a massive mastitis infection that goes systemic and needs high dose antibiotics that are passed through breast milk? Should I then take that risk and breast feed anyway knowing I am putting that anitbiotic in the baby's body? <br /><br />The truth is, in the days where breasts were the only options babies did die from starvation to mothers who could not produce enough milk for them. Interesting how you post breast is the only thing in NZ yet I've seen many pictures on blogs written by people who live in NZ and those pictures include formula and bottles.<br /><br />There is room for both and neither is wrong so long as the baby is fed!Raven/Missyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15502412577584236318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-48469627639524876872012-04-24T02:58:01.070-05:002012-04-24T02:58:01.070-05:00Megan said: "Just admit it was inconvient for...Megan said: "Just admit it was inconvient for you so you quit. Don't go blaming it on your baby because if your baby could master a bottle, they could master nursing."<br /><br />And Mary replied: "agree, lazy parents give up. "<br /><br />Talk about judgmental people that make being a new mom more stressful that it needs to be, here are two perfect examples of that behavior right there!<br /><br />So I am lazy because I stopped breast feeding when my nipples literally split in half requiring stitches to put them back together and I got a massive infection and needed antibiotics that literally can NOT be given to a child and DO pass through breast milk? Do you have any idea how painful it is to have your nipples split in half and stitched up? So what, I should have breast fed with stitches in my nipples??? My nipples didn't just "hurt" (as in uncomfortable or sore), they were bleeding and hurt so badly I couldn't wear a bra or a shirt. So what, I should have let my son drink my blood with my breast milk? Why? So I wouldn't seem lazy to some judgmental women who barely knows me and who can't see that there really are legitimate reasons for women to not be able to breast feed?<br /><br />Here's some historical information: the infant death rate back before formula and bottles existed was very high. If a wet nurse was not available to provide nursing for a woman who was no producing any (or enough) milk, the baby died. Look at the infant death rates in countries where breast feeding is still the main way of feeding their children and often the number 1 killer of those babies is malnutrition (LACK OF FOOD!). If you are a woman who does NOT produce milk, you can let the baby suck at your breast all day and you still won't produce milk. In the "old days" that meant the baby died. Now, we have formula to keep the baby alive. <br /><br />For someone who is espousing education, you are very uneducated about the variations inherent in human bodies. Some women have EXTREMELY sensitive nipples so breast feeding is more than "uncomfortable", it really and truly HURTS like HELL. Women with sensitive nipples like that do not "Get over the hump", it might get less painful but it stays painful not just mildly uncomfortable. <br /><br />I agree..Go SUCK IT MEGAN and MARY what horribly narrow minded judgmental things to say!Raven/Missyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15502412577584236318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-22701236832812919742012-04-24T02:29:35.124-05:002012-04-24T02:29:35.124-05:00Ohman that's another group of people that need...Ohman that's another group of people that need punched! Not you anonymous, but the sanctimonious over achieving idiots who jump down a new mom's throat for having/needing a c-section. <br /><br />My first was just under 10 pounds and the doctor forced a natural delivery. That delivery caused permanent damage to my pelvis and lower back because she was so big (the baby) and my pelvis was so tiny! The result was disability, chronic pain, other injuries the pelvic instability caused and a resultant risk of permanent paralysis (waist down) should I naturally deliver another child.<br /><br />Hence my second (7 years later) was a planned c-section. The looks, nasty comments, etc. that I got for that were as bad as the breast feeding ones. I was actually told that I had "failed" by having a c-section. Really? So choosing to be able to walk and thus care for my newborn (rather than be in a rehabilitation hospital for the first few months of his life learning to take care of myself in a wheel chair) was wrong? Oh the guilt was horrible!Raven/Missyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15502412577584236318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-55272603948227939812012-04-24T02:16:12.195-05:002012-04-24T02:16:12.195-05:00I bottle fed my daughter (born 1988 she was just a...I bottle fed my daughter (born 1988 she was just a tad under 10 pounds at birth) because of a few different reasons. She had not eaten for 12 hours after her birth and no one was helping me with getting her to latch on and I was scared she was going to starve, so gave her a bottle in the hospital. I was 19. No nurses in the hospital would help me, nothing. At two weeks of age, my breasts were drying out but still producing milk and had leaked a bit while I was asleep, when I got up to feed her at 3AM. She latched on through my nightgown when the nipple brushed her cheek while I was holding her. No one had told me if I started breast feeding then, my milk would come back. So for my first child, not breast feeding was lack of education and assistance/support despite it being something I wanted to do. (now I know why she couldn't latch on, my milk came in so heavily that the skin on my breasts was stretched so taut it was shiny and there was no "give" for the nipple to stand up, they were flat. But considering how much milk came in within hours of her birth (went from a c cup to a DDDD), I suspect the main issue I had with my son would have also occurred with her.). <br /><br />With my second, I breast fed for about 8 weeks. I had the opposite problem to you Jen in that my breasts produced TOO MUCH milk. I was putting out 8 ounces per breast every 2 hours from day 1! I had a freezer full of little plastic baggies of frozen breast milk. It was insane. My nipples literally cracked in half (and I mean the entire nipple split in half all the way down) because my son liked to feed only off my left breast, which meant I had to pump the right one. If I went to a store, even with those little pads in my bra, and I heard ANY baby cry my shirt would be soaked with milk. I was changing shirts 8 or more times a day because I was constantly leaking milk from my nipples. not little dribbles or a light flow only when he cried, it was more like a sink with the water on giving a slow steady stream all day. I could change those little pads every 20 minutes and still soak through. Anyone I asked (including lactation consultants, doctors, etc. all said it would even out in a couple weeks..it never did for the entire 8 weeks I breastfed)<br /><br />I kept it up as long as I did because of the pressure everyone around me was putting on me. The pediatrician, my best friend at the time, the "lactation specialist" assigned to me (required by insurance) etc. etc. They made me feel horrible for even considering stopping the breast feeding. They all said the right nipple split as a result of the pump (it split first), but when the left one split also (a day later) and I got a massive mastitis infection along with thrush infection on my skin and in my son's mouth, I gave up and switched to formula. At first I used the defrosted breast milk to dilute the powder, until they all expired, then I used water. For me, in addition to making more milk than my baby needed (everyone kept saying it will even out in about 3 weeks..it NEVER did), the nipple cracking, peeling skin, bites etc. made my nipples very painful. When they literally split in half and I got the infection, I quit. The stress was horrendous! Needless to say the things I had to do to help my nipples heal were no fun either, though I will admit when it was just mild chapping/soreness that the book was right, warm tea bags helped the skin heal. Though I did look hilarious walking around my house without a shirt on and holding tea bags against my nipples. One time my daughter rushed in with a group of her friends and pointed me out "See I told you!". She had charged them a quarter each to come "see" me with my tea bags (she was 7) LOLRaven/Missyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15502412577584236318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5984487997306130330.post-58594834409033581142012-04-16T06:54:32.912-05:002012-04-16T06:54:32.912-05:00La Leche League is a catholic lobby. They use Brea...La Leche League is a catholic lobby. They use Breast Feeding as a way to rally people along their ideology (sorry, I am french speaker).<br />So that is why they do not "mind their business". The fact that they try to put pressure on the government to edit the ad and remove the feeding is quite self explanatory. THIS IS LOBBYING. Putting pressure on the government? Waw. And people still think LLL exists just for the sake of helping newborns and mummies...yeah right. They are responsible for the fact that people now massively believe that breastmilk is some medecine, what "mother nature" especially designed, knowing what is best for us.<br />We, as very special mammals, are different from cats, dogs, cows. Mother's antibodies do not pass through baby's blood. Our babies are born with immune system and antibodies. Breast milk can only protect our babies locally. It helps a bit on a digestive point of view. Maybe help against gastro-enteritis. And that is quite all. THe rest of the so-called "benefits" claimed by LLL is CRAP. And they know it. And so is their "ignorance" of the difficulties and pain breastfeeding induces. <br />Breast is not always best, and formula is perfectly ok. It is not simply cow milk. It is processed milk, with balanced nutrients. Some even contain bifidus, I recently noticed. My son was bottlefed 14 years ago. He is rarely sickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com